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Downton Abbey star Phyllis Logan, who plays Mrs Hughes the unflappable housekeeper, is off to get âa new Elsieâ after our interview.
Elsie, it transpires, is her Downton wig. âItâs Mrs Hughesâs name, but Iâve given it to the wig too,â she explains cheerily.
âIâm overdue a new one. Iâve been lumbered with the old one since we started, and if I have it any longer it might walk away on its own. Itâs a horrible thing, though Iâm secretly quite fond of it.â
By the time Phyllis Logan landed the role of Mrs Hughes she already had a CV that went on for pages, but what's in store for her?
Phyllis pats her own hair â" a youthful shaggy cut â" and muses on what aesthetic alterations await old Elsie. Some blonde highlights, perchance? A touch of pink, Ã la Helen Mirren?
âHa,â she laughs. âTime is marching on in Downton, and weâre now going to be in 1922, so all the younger female characters are getting more up-to-date fashions, and no doubt new hairstyles too.â She sighs.
âI doubt things will be much different for Mrs Hughes, though. The new wig will probably be just as severe â" but a little more grey.â
Sheâs sworn to secrecy about what life has in store for Mrs Hughes in the new series, which has just started filming, but she will talk about what she would like to happen to Mrs Hughes.
âWeâve touched a bit on her past (in the first series Mrs Hughes was stepping out with a farmer, but turned down his proposal), but it would be good to see some more of that. A love interest for her would be nice.â What sort of love interest? âOoh, I donât know,â she says, mischievously. âA toy boy?â
By the time she landed the role of Mrs Hughes she already had a CV that went on for pages, having appeared, over the past 30 years, in everything from Shoestring and Lovejoy to A Touch Of Frost, via Spooks and Lip Service.
In professional terms itâs been a dream, she says, to embrace a gutsy role written for a middle-aged woman. âYou do despair sometimes in this business. You know the thing â" the 50-year-old man who has a wife of 50, but she has to look 25 or 30.
'I think itâs healthy to say, âIâm 58 and, do you know what, this is what a 58-year-old woman looks likeâ. So she ha snât succumbed to the Botox needle? Phyllis falls about laughing. âWhat do you think?â
In professional terms it's been a dream, she says, to embrace a gutsy role written for a middle-aged woman
Fun though she is, thereâs a serious reason for our interview. She recently became involved with the charity Dementia UK, and is supporting their Time For A Cuppa campaign this week, which raises money for specialist Admiral nurses who help sufferers of dementia and their families.
Phyllis and other celebrities have given their favourite cake and biscuit recipes to Weekend â" featured today â" to encourage us all to hold fundraising afternoon teas.
As it transpires, she has a very personal interest in this issue â" although, as she points out, âHavenât a lot of people? I think everyone knows someone whoâs battling with dementia, or caring for a relative affected by it. Iâve been staggered by how commonplace it is.â
Her personal experience is two-fold. âOr actually three-fold,â she points out, âbecause the victims arenât just the people with dementia, but their carers too.â
In the late 90s her mother-in-law (the mother of her actor husband Kevin McNally, with whom she has a 16-year-old son, David) was diagnosed with Alzheimerâs.
âMargaret, my mother-in-law, had always been this funny, outgoing character. Then we started noticing things going a little wrong. Sheâd tell a story sheâd told previously. At first you brush it off, because we all do it, itâs just one of those things about being older.
'Then she started to get confused, and distressed by her confusion and stopped going out. Effectively we lost her long before she died. I remember Kevin, in one of his low moments, describing her as âa huskâ.
âMy father-in-law, who cared for her, struggled to deal with her. I do believe it killed him too, or at least was a big factor. Margaret died in 2009. He was dead a year later.â
There was worse to come, when Phyllisâs own mother, the n in her late 80s, also fell victim to a form of dementia. She and her brother and sister, with the help of cousins, made sure their mother â" still living in Scotland â" was cared for.
âWe organised this rota, took shifts effectively, in being with her. Iâd go up for ten days at a time. But I also had a teenage son. Job commitments. Kevin was away filming Pirates Of The Caribbean. I remember thinking, âHow do other people do this?ââ
Sadly, her mother never saw Phyllis in her Downton role
âI wasnât remotely qualified to nurse her but you do what you can. My mother was so grateful for everything. Iâd be washing her or moving her and sheâd say, âthank you, petâ over and over.
'She didnât want to be a burden but I wanted to do it. You feel quite helpless in that situation.â
Hence her passion for this cause. Admiral nurses are similar to Macmillan cancer care nurses, except they deal with the complex problems that come with dementia. âI donât think you can underestimate how much carers need some support.â
Sadly, her mother never saw Phyllis in her Downton role. âBy the time it started, she wasnât taking anything in. We had to put her in a home because her physical needs became so great. There comes a point where there is no option.â
Yet it was still a difficult decision. âIt was, because we knew she wouldnât have wanted it. But she cele brated her 90th birthday there, and it was lovely. Just three weeks later she was dead.â
When she was clearing out her motherâs belongings Phyllis found a chest of drawers that was full of newspaper clippings charting her career. âSheâd obviously cut every mention out. It made me cry to think of her doing that.â
Her next task when she gets back on set, complete with new Elsie wig, is to organise an afternoon tea with her co-stars to raise money for the charity that means so much to her.
âThe thing you tend to appreciate is how easily it could be you who needs the support,â she says.
âIf you find yourself caring for a relative with dementia, the chances are youâll need help.â
Dementia UKâs Time for a Cuppa campaign to raise money for Admiral Nurses runs from 1 â" 8 March 2013. For information on how to host an event or make a donation please vi sit www.timeforacuppa.org.
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